Rachel Bilson and Melinda Clarke are joined by Johnny Messner who played our favorite villainous porn producer, Lance Baldwin, to discuss season 2, episode 17, “The Brothers Grimm.” Hear about how Johnny and Melinda both got their acting starts in soap operas. Johnny also discusses his experience with Ayahuasca, how it changed his life for the better, and his newfound love for acting and producing. Rachel talks about an iconic scene from this episode that she could not stop laughing at.