Richard has more terrifying news about butterflies and his son's attempts to follow in his footsteps. His guest is the only person who can follow Paul Chuckle, historian and broadcaster Dr Janina Ramirez. They talk about (hopefully) living through a major historical event, the incredible range of inspirational Goddesses, how we're able to discover more about the history of regular people (and women) by shifting traditional focus, what it's like to handle (and drop) incredible historical artefacts, the slice of luck that preserved the Sutton Hoo treasure, how to escape a crocodile and exciting news about Nina's next project. Plus finally someone who is in a position to properly answer the Stephen King/King Stephen question.