Richard has been causing a Twitter sensation with the ballad of his blocked cupboard, but the real question is how many graters does one man need? His guest only has one and her name is Stevie Martin. They chat about the joy of a well timed silly face, the less joy of having to watch your TV pilots vanish into the ether, witchcraft and finding out your allergies via electricity, the difference between moving to London in the 80s and the 2010s, relationships as a competition, terrible social media experiences and the joys of improvising for an hour on Twitch.