Vince (real name: Ben Umanov) sits down with Robb for a epic chat about the the roll of metal media in 2021, how gossip and clickbait dominates the media landscape, the way a metal website generates money, the loved/loathed state of MetalSucks followers, growing up in Manhattan in a music store, his love of Incubus, his band Oblivion releasing 2 albums, working at Atlantic Records, his new-found love of country music, and he addresses the controversies around Nergal from Behemoth and Decapitated.