Author, podcaster, and curator Katy Hessel joins Marc Spiegler to discuss all things women and art, especially in relation to her newly published book, The Story of Art without Men. Who was Sofonisba Anguissola? Did Duchamp really make the Urinal or was it his contemporary Elsa von Freytag-Loringhoven? ‘What I’m trying to do’ Hessel says, ‘is turn upside-down what we’ve known as art history.’